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Hamilton



Joined: 18 Sep 2006
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Location: Argentina

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Feedback is realy the solution ???? Reply with quote

Hi everybody.
Very Happy I`m happy to find people trying to do the Best to get a good Cut.
I`m from Argentina and I began realy from the beginning,at first with a Rek-o-Kut simply overhead with an Audax Head then I got a Presto one with a refurbished iron system and now I`m cutting with a Grampian and a Westrex 3C Stereo Head,just to let know the Grampian cutters in my experience I can tell as I read before that the feeback is not the final solution in the case of Grampian a good test is to find the Eq through the
feedback coil just putting Headphones and listen what sound the feedback coil is driving and making the properly corrections with the EQ and take care about bass put down and then will play amazing.
Take a look at my little Studio.
www.hamiltonrecords.com.ar

Happy to join the Group.
Claudio.
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motorino



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bienvenido Claudio!!

ya le heché un vistazo a tu web, estudio pequeño.. pero maton!

saludos desde España
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Hamilton



Joined: 18 Sep 2006
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Location: Argentina

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Motorino. Reply with quote

Embarassed Te mano un cordial saludo desde Argentina donde todo es tan complicado pero el amor al Vinilo lo supera todo,hay algunos cortes mios en España con gente realmente muy respetuosa al menos con mi persona.

Saludos.

Claudio.
Hamiltonrecords®
www.hamiltonrecords.com.ar
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mysterious cutter



Joined: 28 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Vinyl Recorder Reply with quote

Dub Studio wrote:


and if you really wanted to add a feedback system you could, PM me for details.



Hmm interesting... did you add your own feedback?

Let's explain to us please.
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Dub Studio



Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 51
Location: Bristol

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Vinyl Recorder Reply with quote

mysterious cutter wrote:
Dub Studio wrote:


and if you really wanted to add a feedback system you could, PM me for details.



Hmm interesting... did you add your own feedback?

Let's explain to us please.


No, I am quite happy with the system as it is, but the feedback system is based on the principal of negative feedback so I reckon it would just be a case of applying this principal. Since writing this, an option has been added to the vinylrecorder for feedback, see the website for details.
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Devil



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hombre Claudio!
Que bueno dar con alguien de habla hispanica ... he visto el estudio, buenas cositas tienen que salir de ahí ... por cierto: Que tipo de máquina o marca es la que utilizas??? Laughing
Un saludote desde Ibixa!!!
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Hamilton



Joined: 18 Sep 2006
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Location: Argentina

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Grabacion de Vinilos. Reply with quote

Very Happy Voy despues de estar descolgado algun tiempo con los que hablamos Castellano,hace 6 años que empece con el tema de la grabacion de vinilos,cuando piden experiencia la mia fue de empezar desde lo mas rustico que fue un REK O KUT overhead con una cabeza Audax pasando a una Presto mejorada una Gramphian despues un Westrex 3C hasta que llegue en la actualidad a una SC-99 de Vinylium,les puedo decir con experiencia que creo que la tengo que de todas las Cabezas en Mono me quedo con la Gramphian que tiene una respuesta de bajos impresionante,es obvio que lleva un tiempo lograr la RIIA y la EQ que lleva pero el resultado es opimo y en Estereo la SC-99 es una Cabeza con un rango dinamico muy importante y un sonido limpio y equilibrado
siempre que este acompañado de su Amp,en algun mmento pondre a la venta algunas Cabezas de Corte pero esto sera para otra historia.

Saludos.
Claudio.
Hamiltonrecords®
www.hamiltonrecords.com.ar
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dubs



Joined: 13 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Feedback is realy the solution ???? Reply with quote

Hamilton wrote:
Hi everybody.
Very Happy I`m happy to find people trying to do the Best to get a good Cut.
I`m from Argentina and I began realy from the beginning,at first with a Rek-o-Kut simply overhead with an Audax Head then I got a Presto one with a refurbished iron system and now I`m cutting with a Grampian and a Westrex 3C Stereo Head,just to let know the Grampian cutters in my experience I can tell as I read before that the feeback is not the final solution in the case of Grampian a good test is to find the Eq through the
feedback coil just putting Headphones and listen what sound the feedback coil is driving and making the properly corrections with the EQ and take care about bass put down and then will play amazing.
Take a look at my little Studio.
www.hamiltonrecords.com.ar

Happy to join the Group.
Claudio.


nice.
are you cutting acetate or pvc with this setup?
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motorino



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Feedback is realy the solution ???? Reply with quote

dubs wrote:
Hamilton wrote:
Hi everybody.
Very Happy I`m happy to find people trying to do the Best to get a good Cut.
I`m from Argentina and I began realy from the beginning,at first with a Rek-o-Kut simply overhead with an Audax Head then I got a Presto one with a refurbished iron system and now I`m cutting with a Grampian and a Westrex 3C Stereo Head,just to let know the Grampian cutters in my experience I can tell as I read before that the feeback is not the final solution in the case of Grampian a good test is to find the Eq through the
feedback coil just putting Headphones and listen what sound the feedback coil is driving and making the properly corrections with the EQ and take care about bass put down and then will play amazing.
Take a look at my little Studio.
www.hamiltonrecords.com.ar

Happy to join the Group.
Claudio.


nice.
are you cutting acetate or pvc with this setup?


dubs Rolling Eyes ?

Muy bien Claudio, me alegro por ti! creo que te pasará lo mismo que a mí cuendo estuve en Soluthurn viendo Vinylium y probando el Kingston, una sensación alucinante, grabando directamente de un cd sin compresion ni limitacion de esser.....su sonido....increible

yo he tenido un vestax vrx2000 y un vinylrecorder y creeme, no se acercan ni a la suela del zapato a un kingston, es la diferencia entre un equipo domestico y uno profesional

mi vida laboral a dado un giro muy grande, ya no funcionan mis direcciones de correo anteriores, prometo escribirte pronto y te cuento como va todo

saludos y abrazos!


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dubs



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hamilton



Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 17
Location: Argentina

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: KEEP THE VINYL ALIVE Reply with quote

Very Happy Dear Motorino,me parece que nos conviene escribir en Ingles,in my previous note I explained my experiences about differents cuts I made during the past 6 years using differents cutting system obviuously with the
pioneer Heads like Audax,Presto,Westrex, and others that came installed on the prewar overheads,and the best Mono cut i tested making real good and loud cuts was the Grampian with a great supper bass frecuency
think I reached to give almost 2 Volts AC to coils during 40 minutes and
was still cold,now i make a big step in cutting system I got a Vinylium set up and in my short experience I just can say that they got a realy smooth sound with a wide range of frecuencies allways using the Amp system provided by them and with no more devices just a couple of eq and another stuff the sound is great now I realised that there s a little war between PVC or Laquers,I cut Apollo Reference Lites laquers good for scrath no, but I heard many that cuts PVC and have many surface noise problems are better for scratch I think that could be,but what is the History for Us just keep Vinyl ALIVE !!!!!!! guys give each other ouer experinces to let other Vinyl lovers begin this amazing History.

Greetings from Argentina.

Claudio.
Hamiltonrecords®
www.hamiltonrecords.com.ar
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JayDC



Joined: 13 Jan 2007
Posts: 257
Location: District of Columbia

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the apollo lite's... They are nice, although I do notice a bit of a different sound, compared to dubplate laquers...

Dubplates sound better at first, but degrade quicker..
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dubs



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats the approx life of the apollo lites...much longer than dubplate laquers?
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Hamilton



Joined: 18 Sep 2006
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Location: Argentina

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Hi,I`ve been an Apollo customer during the past six years before the Lites appears so my fist cutting steps were made with dubs,for me assuming that the coat is the same I don`t find any difference in sound but the Lite weight similar to common vinyl is great ,and for me and for many DJ that played my records the playing life is longer.

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Hamilton
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dubs



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool. how many plays would we be talking...50....less?
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JayDC



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the lites have a harder coating.. Thats why the sound is a bit different. I noticed with a dub, on the first 5 plays the sound is very punchy. I can visualize the needle punching throught the paint, when I listen.

The punch isn't as noticable on the Lite's, the sound is a bit harsher, but once again its a trade off, and most people won't even notice..
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Hamilton



Joined: 18 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Dub,we can talk in plays in different ways if we use a Lite from the beginnig to the end of the LP assuming the correct cartridge ej. Stanton 680/500 Pickering and with 2.00/2.50grs i think that we could reach 100 plays NO SCRATCH if we play with Concorde type cause the angle attack of stylus less than 50,I scratched with a Stanton 680EL a Lite like searching a point of music many times and i didn`t listen noise,we all know the limitation of the Laquers otherwise we have to put a Press plant and this conversation is History. Confused Arrow Arrow Razz

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Hamilton.
www.hamiltonrecords.com.ar
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JayDC



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lite's will scratch burn as easily as commerical vinyl. As far as the play back amount. The lite's I've cut still sound the same after 25 plays, with normal wear and tear (DJ cueing, ect..).. I have not had them that long, so I'll keep playing them, and let you guys know my thoughs.

as for an experiment, I'll cut something to a Lite, then recordd an mp3.. I'll play at least 100 times over the summer, and will keep track of how many times I played it, at the end of the summer, I'll rerecord it to mp3, and then we'll make a judgement.

I'll be using it in the club enviroment, and I won't be careful with it.
If for some reason it doesn't last the whole summer, I'll end the experiment early and post my findings..
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dubs



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool jay, would be very interested in that experiment! Smile
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