The Secret Society of Lathe Trolls

mossboss · Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: Another well May be

This site is up and running Nice lathe and interesting little setup Input from anyone? http://capsulelabs.com/vinyl-record-pressing

thomas · Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 70 Location: brooklyn, new york

Moss boss hello,

Capsule labs is gil, site was down for awhile, nice to see it back up.

Aussie0zborn · Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 515 Location: Australia

New Pressing Plant Opened This Month in Mexico. I will ask Claudio to post his details here.

vinyl-groove · Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 3 Location: london

thanks for getting the list together .we should add the capacity of each plant .. then we could estimate world capacity

Uk ........?

curved are now a broker having sold preses to optimal i believe..
they do still cut lacquers
quick press have closed -Alpha preses went to US -not confrmed

total vinyl bought all the independent 12 " alphas x10
the 7" went to record industry

total are selling some of the alphas and galvanic equipment on EBay

thanks

see link
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=vinyl+presses&_sacat=See-All-Categories

IndependentRecordPressing · Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Location: Kilburn.UK

HI - only had nine at independent - unless one is still around the Midlands - and one of those was in pieces - Chris Never got around to Putting the Ninth one together, as production was starting to decrease by then...
...If there was a tenth Press which got sold off, I'm in the Market....!
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vinyl-groove · Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 3 Location: london

thanks for getting the list together .we should add the capacity of each plant .. then we could estimate world capacity

Uk ........?

curved are now a broker having sold preses to optimal i believe..
they do still cut lacquers
quick press have closed -Alpha preses went to US -not confrmed

total vinyl bought all the independent 12 " alphas x10
the 7" went to record industry

total are selling some of the alphas and galvanic equipment on EBay

thanks

see link
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=vinyl+presses&_sacat=See-All-Categories

mossboss · Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: Record Plant Capacity

Good one all
We would really like to know output of vinyl pressings rather than capacity I am of the view that capacity far exceeds demand as it stands today therefore plant closures very dissapointing (to me anyway)
Reading post's here where machines are going it appears that there is a distinct movement by existing well funded plants in purchasing and mothballing machines
Is this so as to limit competition?
Is this back to the good bad days?
Is it good for vinyl?
This medium has a dedicated following and it always will Besides it had a recent mini boom, is this shrinking rather than expanding?
My view is that it is shrinking
Why?
Once a pressing plant allows itself to be at the mercy of others it's future is about the amount of overdraft available from it's bankers after the operators run out of funds a very short one
When it is all said and done looking at the emerging picture I would have thought that any plant that is not self contained with all the required facilities is facing a grim future due to the fact that cost's of producing a vinyl record will be beyond it's control
A consumer will only pay so much for a vinyl record, now we have the situation that there are to many steps from the artist to the consumer looking to make a living out of it
The cutting lathe which was the mainstay and the tool of the pressing plant has now moved in the realm of mastering studios as a separate profit centre
No cutting lathe No future for any pressing plant
Cheers

IndependentRecordPressing · Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Location: Kilburn.UK

Just had my offer accepted - all i need to do now is set everything up...which I've never done before....!

-I have experience of setting up a " Plumbed-in " 1202 - but not from scatch - so Aussie mike and Mossy - I'll need to really pick at your brains - also - any other help/advice from other members will be extremely helpful..!

Thanks to all in advance for help....

John.
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flozki · Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 207 Location: switzerland

hello
i have a few corrcetions on the list edited july 3th.

switzerland:
turicaphon. they had a very good pressing plant. they closed down in 1990 or so. they have shares from pallas germany or are part owner, so they let press everything there. they just offer the services.

so the only presses left in switzerland, are a manual FABEL and half of a toolex702.
but it takes a while until they are up and running..but they will.hehe

germany:
eldorado is also just a dealer. they just offer the service but they cut and press somewhere else. they used to press at LAMPING before they closed.

TotalSonic · Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 87

I've updated my "no brokers allowed" list with the additional info provided - please let me know if there is anyone I'm still missing.

http://www.totalsonic.net/vinylplants.htm

Best regards,
Steve Berson
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mossboss

Aussie0zborn · Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 515 Location: Australia

flozki · Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 207 Location: switzerland

uups one more i know:

jamaica .kingston: dynamic sounds
this one i visited once..its afew years ago. but they must still operate. it was the biggest plant on the island. with finebuilt bookshelf presses
i guess there are a few more....

thomas · Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 70 Location: brooklyn, new york

Flozki hello,

Yes, there should be several Jamaican plants. I believe the brother of the owner of Dynamic Sounds also owns a pressing plant, name eludes me though.

The infamous Tuff Gong too.

My best-

flozki · Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 207 Location: switzerland

yes. tuff gong had or has its own pressing.
when i was there they where off service...machines broken...but maybe they fixed i dont know.
woulb be cool if someone has better infos....

by the way dynamic sounds also runs a vms70....

thomas · Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 70 Location: brooklyn, new york

Flozki hello,

Bit of my memory came back, think brother of Dynamic Sounds is Sonic Sounds.

Tuff Gong is/was cutting, plating and pressing. Neumann lathe, looks to be VMS 70. Unknown plating equipment, suspect SMT. SMT presses for sure.

Still should be a few plants besides these.

My best-

Aussie0zborn · Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 515 Location: Australia

Laser Works, Jamaica

A new vinyl manufacturing service from the CD plant "Laser Works" in Jamaica.

"Our new vinyl machines are fully automated making approximately 25,000 records per week (Monday - Friday). Laser Works is always willing to meet the needs of the customers, we are equipped to please opening Saturdays and Sundays just to make sure your production is on time. As part of our recent expansion we are now able to manufacture 12” vinyl records.

Customers of the vinyl plant must supply stampers & printed labels for production. Labels will be accepted cut or uncut. Because laser works possess the ability to cut label to the proper specs. Label designs can also be sent in from overseas customers for us to get printed and cut for production.

The stampers you supply to laser works is the medium used to transfer the music to vinyl. Manually the process can take from a minute and half to two and a half minutes to produce a single record.

All stampers should be delivered in a flat format, Laser works does all punch and coining of stampers at our facility".

Source : http://laserworksja.com/vinylplant.php

Can anyone confirm this?

Aussie0zborn · Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 515 Location: Australia

Tuff Gong, Jamaica

Photo on their website shows Neumannn VMS70 lathe. Other info there:

STAMPER PLANT:
Three nickel baths for electroplating acetates: The plating is carefully removed, dried, cleaned, polished and trimmed, then coined to fit the pressing machines perfectly.

MUSIC MANUFACTURING LTD.
Famco - Centering Machine
Niacara - Trimming Machine
SMT Automatic Record Presses (45 and LP)

Source: http://www.bobmarley-foundation.com/services.html

Can anyone confirm this?

flozki · Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 207 Location: switzerland

i can confirm the vms70.
but at the time it was out of order.... and i am not sure if they ever managed to fix....i hope.
f.

ameise · Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 23

hey all i just saw that my pressing plant is written wrong up here.
without wanting to complain about it i thought i could update the list a bit:

german plants:
ameise vinylpresserei
(has been the smallest plant in the world, now there are more
even smaller:)
celebrate
dominate (R.I.P. brother)
flight13 duplication
müller (mmp)
my45
randmuzik
pallas
optimal
organic music

feel free to stop by when you are around!

greetings
mart

p.s. oops sorry i saw the topic crawled on in the meantime,
for those who wonder what machine tuffgong uses
my friend julian went there and took some photos:
http://www.jdmt-photo.net/V2/index.php